A lot of writing about why I can't write any more

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Feb. 10th, 2007 | 05:36 pm
mood: blinking cursor
music: The Beatles - "Dear Prudence"

I just came across an exquisitely postmodern sentence in the book I picked up off the floor this afternoon (Stephen Jay Gould's The Hedgehog, the Fox and the Magister's Pox), full of phrases like "culturally embedded" and "just one system of beliefs" and "social construction" and even "hegemony." It, as all such sentences do, made me shiver a bit.

Natural aversion might have its part to play but mostly my reaction is due to conditioning. As an English major I beat my head against such sentences to a greater or lesser extent for four years. Even when I could decipher the texts I was asked to read, I often found myself incapable of generating such things in my required responses.

I'm not saying all was postmodernism, but all was ... something. Scholarly, dry, complex (for complexity's sake, it often seemed), referring to other papers and ideas I knew nothing about. Academia sometimes feels a lot like two neighbors arguing over whose property that big tree is on, but they're fighting it out by writing letters to their sleepy town's newspaper: this week X talks about rezoning, last week Y wrote of the sad demise of birdwatching, the week before that X wrote about the quality of garbage collection in the city, and if you didn't know what happened 600 letters ago you'll never get the allusions, the parentheticals, the innocuous cover stories for all the biting remarks. It wasn't a game I cared to follow along with, much less play.

So I was at a loss. I knew what I wanted to write was not what they wanted, so I didn't do that. But I didn't know what was wanted. My easy success in elementary and high school left me unable to cope with any real challenges or opportunities to really learn anything. I didn't know what to do when I didn't already excel. I certainly couldn't be seen to do less! To make the usual silly undergraduate mistakes! I took every criticism personally; I knew it was stupid but I couldn't help it. Still can't.

I didn't belong there, I decided. I made a stab for the hard sciences (I'd wanted to be an astronomer when I was little, and I loved physics), but I had to take Calc I first and that didn't even last long enough for me to get to integrals.

Andrew just asked me what I was writing and I told him the last paragraph was about calculus. "Oh!" he said. "Do you know where the word calculus comes from?" Pebble! I said. "It means stone," he corrected. No, pebble! I was insistent. Little stone! "Oh, calculus," he murmured to himself, "you're right." He took Latin, so he can figure these things out; I love etymology but learn it all by brute force. A rare victory then, I hope you realize.

So, being the sort of person who knows the etymology of the word calculus rather than anything else about it, I crawled back to the humanities, to jack-of-all-literature-master-of-none "survey" classes, to theory and criticism and arguments. My difficulty with them only increased. I found it hard to write essays, not because i was procrastinating or lazy — though I can certainly be those as well — but because even when I sat down with the books and papers I needed and a new word document open in front of me and the best will in the world, I couldn't write. That doesn't mean I couldn't write well, or promptly or anything like that. I mean I couldn't squeeze a sentence out. I couldn't write. I had no idea what to do.

This started worrying me near the beginning of my junior year and things quickly got worse until the end of what would have been my senior year if I hadn't failed so many classes by then, all English classes for my major, all the things that required writing. That "best will in the world" got harder and harder to find as I got worse, but even at the end it would peek up sometimes, look around at this hopeless state and ask What's gong on? How did this happen? What am I doing? What's wrong? I had no idea. The questions scared me because I felt so powerless to answer them.

I would've thought failing out of college would help with that at least, but while it freed me from the need to read postmodern nonsense and write Arguments about everything, it didn't get rid of the gift this experience had brought me: sheer emptiness every time I looked at a blank word document, only a blinking cursor marking the time. The questions still scared me, I still couldn't answer them, I still didn't write.

In high school at least I wrote. In twelfth grade, for the first time in my life, a teacher asked my class to write; I still have a couple of those little essays with glowing remarks on them. I wrote a stupid little feature for the school newspaper. I wrote a silly speech for competition; a decently-written but poorly-performed thing. I wrote a couple of things just for myself, about salad dressing and the like, things that might have ended up in LJ if I'd had one then.

In fact a lot of the first year or two of my LiveJournal looks a lot like I remember them: simple, mundane things, pretty boring, usually with a punchline and/or moral tacked on at the end. Very tidy, they were, honest — always; it's a faiilng of mine — and bland and polished and safe, conscious of their audience (which is funny because my high-school writing had none and my LJ had little audience then, yet now that I've got a big one I'm writing this sort of twaddle).

At 18 I wrote for the pleasure of it; at 22 I couldn't remember there had ever been any.

I am not a flexible writer. That is why LJ is perfect for me; I only write what I want and it's not politics or restaurants or movies I saw, it's just about me. Even now, you can ask me to write about almost any subject — Andrew and his uncle have done so many times — and I will reliably flounder and end up with nothing to show them despite the best of intentions. "I don't know anything about that!" I think (or say). "I don't know where to start!" And it's true. My brain is still blank, the cursor slowly blinking.

Except I know they never know anything when they start out either; they're happy to look things up, make things up, and to write a rubbish first draft. I know this too, but I can't do any of that.

My LJ friends include a bunch of great writers, and many of them offhandedly mention their articles or novels or poetry or short stories. It baffles me — How do they do it? — and also made me envious. Not just for their abilities but their nonchalance; I was sure that if I managed the merest decent novella I'd be shouting it big+3 to all of you reading about holly_lama. And embarrassed: this LJ lark is no big deal for them, but it's all I've got. I can't even keep a paper journal for more than a week without losing interest or hating everything I wrote.

I have no thoughts in my head.

I can't even write a review of a movie or CD or whatever without it all being just about myself. I lack the network of facts and allusions to write the sorts I like to read, even the sort of gonzo journalism I like to read. All I know is me, and even that not very well.

Where Do You Get Your Ideas From?

Not just the reviewers or other writers, all of you. Where do you get all the things you write about: the clothes, the food, the friends, the plans for the weekend? Alan Moore has a character that's imagination personified, and indeed she says "I'm imagination. I'm real, and I'm the best friend you ever had. Who do you think got you all this cool stuff? The clothes you're wearing, the room, the house, the city that you're in. Everything in it started out in the human imagination. Your lives, your personalities, the whole world that you're in."

I know what he means — I remember when Andrew and England only existed in my imagination . But, well, I gues I'm just feeling a little lifeless at the moment. A little personalityless. My mind is still a blank screen.

I'm too old for this.
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all brakhages must be paid for...

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from: [info]irkthepurist
date: Feb. 10th, 2007 05:46 pm (UTC)
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the one reason i want to do my phd in film history is because there'll hopefully be less ovrt postmodernism involved. i have a very firm belief that postmodernism and a huge chunk of literary and cultural "theory" is entirely created so lecturers and academics don't have to do any real work of value and just learn a few well crafted sentences and postmodernist terms rather than actually THINK. it's all farting about in the name of jargon rather than actually anything of USE and it pisses me off no end. i'm reading some critical books on detective fiction for [info]mrs_bramley at the moment and it takes about five pages of tiresome jargon to say "a lot of golden age detective fiction is very much concerned with class". bloody hell. it's enough to make anyone despair...

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too short to be haughty, too nutty to be naughty

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from: [info]minnesattva
date: Feb. 10th, 2007 05:53 pm (UTC)
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I am sort of using it here as shorthand for all the things that brought about my frustration and despair and my eventual downfall, but I don't feel bad for blaming it specifically; it really was one of the worst offenders.

I think it is mostly rubbish academic posturing too, but I do worry that I think that only 'cause I was so incapable of dealing with it and I want that ot be its fault and not mine. :-)

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all brakhages must be paid for...

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from: [info]irkthepurist
date: Feb. 10th, 2007 07:45 pm (UTC)
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no no - trust me, the more academic texts you reread it's the ones that with clear, lucid, intelligent use of the english language and that make well made points that strike you as the reasons why academia is - to quote sellars and yeatman - "a good thing". whereas the majority of the stuff you have to wade through is just a case of knowing which words to use, in which order and which books to cite. as i said, four or five pages to make the most asininely obvious comments about the crime novel - yes it's obvious it's a class thing, yes it's obvious people like vicariously living through crime because they know in a crime novel it'll all be alright in the end where it won't in the real world - do not make good academia even if you do use the proper words

my take on it: there's a shorthand with some parts of academia that when marking stuff if you use the right terms you get points. i've almost been as guilty of this as anyone else - a mediocre presentation two years ago used the words "hegemony" and "gramsci" and i VERY NEARLY gave them points just for using the words. then i realised they only vaguely understood the terms and really only used them because they knew i might react with the "ooh! points!" way i did before i checked myself for falling into the trap. only use the jargon if it's actually useful is my take on it - otherwise it's just throwing the words in to make it look like you know what you're on about

the delights of postmodernism for academics who fall for it though is that it's one long mobius strip of nothing much that they can just explore forever and ever, never actually having to have an original thought in their useless, jargon filled lives...

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Etoile

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from: [info]etoilepb
date: Feb. 10th, 2007 07:47 pm (UTC)
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I encountered more rubbish academic jargon doing the MFA in Film Studies (history / theory / criticism) than I would ever have thought possible -- and I thought a LOT of it was possible. If I never hear the word "Lacanian" again in my life it will be too soon.

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all brakhages must be paid for...

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from: [info]irkthepurist
date: Feb. 10th, 2007 08:04 pm (UTC)
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thankfully i did my film MA in a place which seemed mostly to allow those of us who weren't taken with jargon to ignore it if we so wished (which i very much did wish). this is why for my phd i want to do film history at UEW in norwich because almost everything i've read by an academic there is actually *worth reading*. of course they occasionally dabble in jargon because sometimes jargon is useful (for ages i resisted the term "mise en scene" before i actually realised it was actually worth using) but they don't perpetrate the horrors of jargon for the sake of it which blight about half the text books i own

also: one of the reasons i stick to british cinema is because for the most part few of the people who care deeply about it are the type to fling the jargon at it. it's probably not the most glamorous end of the film world and as such it's been pretty untouched by the grubby hands of the worst film academics and jargon abusers...

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too short to be haughty, too nutty to be naughty

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from: [info]minnesattva
date: Feb. 10th, 2007 08:46 pm (UTC)
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Ooo, I remember "Lancanian"! Not that I remember anything else about him, of course, but I remember his being one of the names I grew to hate.

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Astoria Hotel - Enjoy Your Stay

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from: [info]xianrex
date: Feb. 11th, 2007 05:24 pm (UTC)
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Jacque Lacan let me rock you
Let me rock you Jacques Lacan
Jacques Lacan let me rock you
That's all I wanna do

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PF

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from: [info]blue_condition
date: Feb. 11th, 2007 10:52 pm (UTC)
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Success in academia in the humanities does seem to be almost exactly parallel to Freemasonry - at each level you learn more arcane made-up bullshit that ties into a conspiracy-theorist world view, go through more silly rituals and get deeper and deeper into hermeneutic bollocks! The "you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours" of local councillors, magistrates and chief inspectors with vinegary BO is paralleled almost exactly by the "you review my book and I'll review yours/you invite me to your workshop on Derrida and I'll invite you to mine on Foucault"...

In a sense it's a pity that the MA isn't the terminal degree in academia; I suppose the PhD corresponds to one's becoming a Master Mason these days ;P

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too short to be haughty, too nutty to be naughty

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from: [info]minnesattva
date: Feb. 12th, 2007 08:33 pm (UTC)
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It makes so much more sense now! :-)

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groundbyground

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from: [info]groundbyground
date: Feb. 10th, 2007 06:23 pm (UTC)
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Well, fear not, you are not alone. I am incapable of keeping a journal for any length of time. Lj on the other hand, seems to stay around. Maybe it's for the fact that it doesn't have 200 pages waiting for me to fill them, or the fact that the pages I have written on have not aged and yellowed but remains a pristine digital perfection.

I have to admit, I am not an academic. I love words, stories, the potential a piece might have for me, but I know nothing of theory. You could ramble off a dozen names and I wouldn't know who they were. I'm not sure if I'm lucky for that, or not.

I collect academics as friends. It's education by proxy.

Anyway, I have found myself capable of writing. The obstacle I thought I'd discovered was a lack of feedback. My friends were generally complementary, others really don't bother critiquing, and at the end of it all I found myself uninspired. And that's when I realized I wasn't looking for advice for improvement, but proof that I was entertaining. I liked entertaining folks, and that was my driving force for writing. I wasn't looking for feedback. I was looking for an audience.

For some reason, that realization scared me to the point of indecision. I've written very little for at least a year now.

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too short to be haughty, too nutty to be naughty

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from: [info]minnesattva
date: Feb. 10th, 2007 07:08 pm (UTC)
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LJ has been for me the exception that proves the rule. I've been writing (more or less) regularly here for something like four and a half years now! It's stunning if I think about it that way.

I was hoping it'd fix my writing weirdness (I actually got the thing because I complained about how I wasn't writing any more and she gave me an invite code); they say it doesn't matter what you write, just so you get into the habit and stuff, right? Ha.

I think you have a point there about the lack of 200 intimidatingly pristine pages, but I also think LJ's working out because of its community aspect; my friends keep me honest, keep writing fun and interesting because I love the interactions so much.

Plus, I can delete stuff whenever I want. :-)

I collect geeks as friends and am really enjoying the education that brings me.

I don't know if not knowing the theory makes you lucky or not; I think it can perhaps not deepen your appreciation for various kinds of art but give it more dimensions and richness, widen it maybe. But it can also kill it, because some art is the sort of magic trick that's boring once you see how it's done. And that's the good stuff: a lot of art doesn't seem to stand up to much scrutiny in the first place.

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What do stones regret?

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from: [info]soltice
date: Feb. 10th, 2007 06:39 pm (UTC)
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::hugs::

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The Man In Black

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from: [info]historthecrow
date: Feb. 10th, 2007 06:47 pm (UTC)
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Here we find the "author" trapped in the abject aporia between the Scylla of normative ideological hegemony and the Charybdis of a free floating multiplicity of pluralisms. The "author" is revealed as a Baudrillardian simulacrum, signifying the absence of thought at the centre of the postmodern condition, a centre which is paradoxically not a centre, infinitely recursive and multivalent. The empty head metonymically stands for the failure of the enlightenment-modernist project while dissolving in the realisation of its own emptiness.

Then I got off the bus.

This weekend I'm rewriting an article for an empirical military history journal so I'm trying to ditch all the wank words that I've learnt and write sentences that actually make sense.

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too short to be haughty, too nutty to be naughty

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from: [info]minnesattva
date: Feb. 10th, 2007 07:10 pm (UTC)
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I know just what you mean. :-)

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The Man In Black

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from: [info]historthecrow
date: Feb. 10th, 2007 08:40 pm (UTC)
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Intentional fallacy!

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Etoile

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from: [info]etoilepb
date: Feb. 10th, 2007 07:53 pm (UTC)
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Where Do You Get Your Ideas From?

Not just the reviewers or other writers, all of you. Where do you get all the things you write about: the clothes, the food, the friends, the plans for the weekend?


You'll notice every now and again... I don't. I go through waves of great inspiration and then waves where there simply is no idea worth the energy it takes to get it out into words. Those days I'm usually halfway through an LJ entry before I CTRL+A and delete the whole damned thing.

But then there are some things that I see and feel that I just can't help but make words of. Walking through the coolest parts of New York City on a sharp and clear winter afternoon to go shopping, and realizing I live here and realizing the sheer LIFENESS and joy and super-crazy coolness of the whole thing... it's a moment I can't let go forever, a moment I feel compelled to capture.

And one of the things I'm gladdest I've done in the last 12 years (I started keeping paper journals when I was 14) is the chronicling of my life, in words I like and words I don't. And one of the other things I'm gladdest I've done was when I picked up four pages of the most horrible suicidal pointless pain I'd ever scribbled and threw them into a roaring fireplace, because some things shouldn't be kept.

For what it's worth, half of what you write seems plucked from my own soul, half a world away; it's that sort of universal okayness that comes with knowing I'm not the only one. We all have our successes and we all have our fuckups and sometimes all you can do is wrap language around them, and sometimes the best thing is not to.

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too short to be haughty, too nutty to be naughty

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from: [info]minnesattva
date: Feb. 10th, 2007 08:56 pm (UTC)
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I suppose it's easy to think that writers are burning with fiery writing passion all the time when my relationship with them consists entirely of words. Just because I don't hear about their time sitting around in pajamas hardy means it isn't happening.

Though LJ has taught me better; I know we're not all fiery; your current radio silence (among others) has not gone unnoticed. That's fine, but you're still thought of and you're still universally okay. :-)

Thanks for commenting; I always like what you have to say.

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Madam Harkonnen

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from: [info]madam_h
date: Feb. 10th, 2007 11:44 pm (UTC)
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Hmmm, this all looks like writing to me!

More... it's writing of the type that I used to dream of writing :) Now I know better and just witter about trees and reflections and oysters. Every now and then I branch out into moaning.

Words? Why, she could almost make them talk...

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Itisme

ooooooooooooh

from: [info]newwaytowrite
date: Feb. 11th, 2007 01:29 am (UTC)
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oysters. Could you direct me to an entry of yours that is about oysters?

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Madam Harkonnen

Re: ooooooooooooh

from: [info]madam_h
date: Feb. 11th, 2007 10:57 am (UTC)
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Unfortunately, the oyster-wittering was on a band forum!

I ate them for the first time yesterday, with a dash of green tabasco and a squeeze of lemon. Girded my loins, raised the beast to my lips and watched as the sparkling slippery mass slid along the shell towards my mouth. Not a flavour that I'd write home about, but very interesting texture and I enjoyed eating soemthing so very close to being alive.

I've kept the shells as trophies.

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too short to be haughty, too nutty to be naughty

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from: [info]minnesattva
date: Feb. 11th, 2007 07:13 am (UTC)
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Hmmm, this all looks like writing to me!

I was waiting for someone to point that out. It ended up being a hell of a lot longer than I imagined, but that is because I work in tangents (another big problem in my college days) rather than because I really had so many things to say. And yes it is writing but it's a cop-out, a placeholder, writing about writing.

However I will say that this meta-writing, however boring it is to look upon (and I do think it is; I'm not saying that anyone else does and I am not fishing for compliments) was as fun. It was what I remember writing being like when I liked it, because there are a couple of ideas buried here, things I only realized as I was writing them down. And it's been such a long time since that happened for me that I was unusually excited and had a good time writing it all down, feeling accomplished when it seemed to work out more or less as I thought it should and everything.

I'll go back to moaning and wittering myself now, I'm sure, but at least for now I can speculate pleasantly on my chances of making some progress, or at least getting back to my old self.

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Madam Harkonnen

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from: [info]madam_h
date: Feb. 11th, 2007 11:07 am (UTC)
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It may feel generous and encompassing to broaden out, to write about topics other than yourself, but if writing about yourself floats your boat then I'd say go for it!

And now it's about me :) ... I tend to edit my writing down all the time because I include too many references to daft things that make me smile but make other folk produce strangled wtf? noises. I used to write about all sorts of personal interests in my early lj but then I got very conservative with it, thinking that, well, maybe people didn't want to have to skip another post about my musings on cannibalism or my interest in trepannation. It's only recently that I got back into the habit of posting on any subject that takes my fancy, and damn the eyes of anyone who thinks it's not good enough.

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too short to be haughty, too nutty to be naughty

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from: [info]minnesattva
date: Feb. 11th, 2007 11:30 am (UTC)
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I'm very glad to hear of the return of cannibalism and trepanning ... to your LJ. :-) I love that sort of variety; I'm happy to listen to anybody talk about almost anything they're really interested in. Even in school I ended up fond of things like, say, William Blake just from watching one of my professors go crazy about him. And having friends interested in learning Japanese, coding, knitting, silent movies, cartography, Scandinavian sagas, quantum physics ... I'm sure all this stuff is surely going to make me a Renaissance girl eventually.

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from: [info]donttouchmyhat
date: Feb. 11th, 2007 02:08 am (UTC)
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There's a tendency to consider LJ a lesser thing and sure, it may never achieve the prestige of a Crime and Punishment, but then again....

I guess what I'm saying is while YES IT IS THE INTERNET it could also conceivably be the future of literature, fiction & non. The online reading population continues growing, damn near everyone under 30 has at least a bare bones blog. Are we that far away from advertisers approaching some superstar blogger (or vice versa) and creating a free-to-read blog with ads (LJ already has those sponsored accounts I know) while offering special sections or perks to those who pay a minimal fee?

I'd also point out that a growing audience indicates you have writing that's interesting at least. How's that for a backwards bravo?

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too short to be haughty, too nutty to be naughty

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from: [info]minnesattva
date: Feb. 11th, 2007 09:00 am (UTC)
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Oh yes, there's great potential for teh interwebz to fundamentally change the future of literature, and as it fits my tangential, parenthetical, hyperactive hyperlinking brain pretty well, I welcome our new overlords. But I don't personally expect fame and fortune from it, at least not for anything I've done so far. I seem happy to sacrifice that in exchange for no pressure and no editorial interference.

The only thing that would keep me from stealing the phrase backwards bravo is forgetting it first. I like it a lot; hooray for alliteration! Indeed it is nice to have an audience (even if they're just reciprocating my outward interest in reading their LJs), but I guess what I'm complaining about isn't my lack of writing ability — despite that being what I call it throughout, here — because I can deal with grammar and mechanics and occasionally work up a good turn of phrase. I should more accurately be bemoaning my lack of stories: I have style but no content.

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too short to be haughty, too nutty to be naughty

Style but no content.

from: [info]minnesattva
date: Feb. 11th, 2007 09:11 am (UTC)
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It all goes back to what I said: I need more things to do. Then I'd have more to talk about and less belly-button lint to worry about.

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a little alliteration

from: [info]donttouchmyhat
date: Feb. 12th, 2007 09:24 pm (UTC)
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For what it's worth, this particular part of the audience, the Holly Host if you will, responds not out of rote reciprocation but out of jolly genuine interest.

And I'd be quite content with your content too. Coolio.

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too short to be haughty, too nutty to be naughty

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from: [info]minnesattva
date: Feb. 13th, 2007 07:38 am (UTC)
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An excellent effort!

For a couple of years now the title of my friends page has been Special Guest Villains after I found that on the liner notes of a CD. But now I've changed it to the Holly Host, because I like the sound of that so much. It may be a bit egotistical and anyway I fear change, but getting used to this one is worth it. It makes me smile.

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No more egotistical than the pride I feel in contributing a header for the friends page.

from: [info]donttouchmyhat
date: Feb. 13th, 2007 08:02 am (UTC)
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Verily, Vladimir's influence is veritable and vast upon my verbiage.

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too short to be haughty, too nutty to be naughty

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from: [info]minnesattva
date: Feb. 13th, 2007 02:11 pm (UTC)
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The only problem is that, at a glance, I keep mistaking it for Holy Host, which isn't the sort of thing we recovering Catholics need.

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In which case they'll get to be on the fun end of guilt.

from: [info]donttouchmyhat
date: Feb. 13th, 2007 04:44 pm (UTC)
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You might want to consider a dose of Mormonism. They believe they're headed for godhood their own selves.

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'thew

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from: [info]comradexavier
date: Feb. 11th, 2007 06:15 am (UTC)
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My 'blog's LJ title is still Make Something Up; I didn't change it when I switched to running my own main site, mostly because I really like the subtitle "New Ideas For Free." On the rare occasions I write something of significance, that's usually the From Where my ideas come. (The fun things, anyway—sometimes I write to express frustration. In such cases, the From Where is usually idiots.)

I sympathize with your blank-page troubles, though. Fairly often I have an idea about which I'd like to write, but I don't because I can't think of a good first sentence. The first sentence is everything; once I have that, the rest—however much of the rest there ends up being—is easy.

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roly poly little batfaced girl

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from: [info]un_crayon_rouge
date: Feb. 11th, 2007 09:30 am (UTC)
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I just started a book that I bought because it was allegedly about strong female characters in US-american tv shows of the 90s and 00s. In the first chapter, the author used the words post-deconstructivism twohundredandfortyeight times. I want to read about Buffy, dammit!!

I gave up academia for exactly the same reason. I simply cannot understand why I am required to write about things I am fairly enthusiastic and passionate about in a way that will make anyone who reads it fall asleep in ten seconds. I want to say new things, not prove to all my professors that I've read all the other books! If what I write is good enough, it won't matter, and if it isn't, it's probably because I don't know enough about Lacan and Derrida anyway, so there.

Anyway, about the whole writing thing - this is just an idea, but why exactly do you feel that writing about yourself is such a bad or uninteresting thing? I read to see how other people live, and I am sure I am not the only one. I'd much rather read an honest rambling about me me me, than a wonderfully crafted account of some exotic experience that could have been written by anyone. When I read, be in LJs or novels and yes, even academic papers, I want personality, distinctiveness, honesty. You got plenty of those.

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too short to be haughty, too nutty to be naughty

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from: [info]minnesattva
date: Feb. 11th, 2007 10:56 am (UTC)
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I know; I'm always telling people to stop worrying and write about the stuff they're doing and thinking about. I'm always telling them not to worry and then sometimes they have to say it back at me.

I can have abominable self-esteem at times -- old habits die hard -- but I don't think that's the issue here, or at least not the only one. What I write for my LJ is, more or less, fine for LJ but I just wish it wasn't my only writing. I wish I could do fiction or poetry or even proper non-fiction not because they're more "respectable" (okay, maybe that too, but not just because they're seen as more respectable) but just for variety. This one gets tedious and LJ (mine at least) doesn't seem meant to be my sole creative outlet.

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Astoria Hotel - Enjoy Your Stay

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from: [info]xianrex
date: Feb. 11th, 2007 05:34 pm (UTC)
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All non-fiction writing is filtered through the brain of the writer (as opposed to fiction, which is whole cloth imagination). It's just a question of how fine that filter is. There's "scholarly" history stuff that's almost completely impartial, and there are music review columns that are nearly all opinion/self-referential. I think a big part of excelling at art is being honest about where your art is and what form it takes. On the other hand, though, you are not always the best judge of what you're "good at" - I've done songs that I think are pure tripe, but others (a few) think are not horrible.

So. A lot of non-helpful words. Recognize what you're good at without trying, and then practice on the stuff you don't naturally excel at (which doesn't mean at all that you're no good at it). You've got a keen eye for emotion and atmosphere, and that shows up in poetry last I checked.

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from: [info]minnesattva
date: Feb. 12th, 2007 08:10 pm (UTC)
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I read a bunch of poetry this morning; I like it but I sort of forget about it or remember it all being bad because at school they didn't tell us about enough people like Billy Collins and Robert Bly, who I actually like. So thanks for reminding me. :-) I like and admire poetry a great deal, and am glad to hear that anyone thinks I have anything in common with it, but my own attempts tend to be just prose broken up into random lines. I know all about word-choice and meter and stuff, but can't eem to do much for those things myself. I did alright with gimmick verse forms, like pantoums or cinquains, but that's about it.

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Nation of Tire Sale

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from: [info]tdaschel
date: Feb. 12th, 2007 09:01 am (UTC)
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Where Do You Get Your Ideas From?

my alleged "journal" is basically a collection of quotations and aggravations. if i led an interesting life, would i tawk about it then? probably not / i'd prolly be out having fun !

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from: [info]minnesattva
date: Feb. 12th, 2007 08:10 pm (UTC)
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Yeah, I'd be happy with more to do and less to say about it.

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Brother Katana of Sweet Reason

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from: [info]gentleman_lech
date: Feb. 12th, 2007 08:02 pm (UTC)
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I find it kind of amusing that this post about how you can't write is both lengthy and well-written. Not like I've ever seen anything you've written that wasn't done well - I suspect the 'post' button simply never gets pushed for those.

Unfortunately, I haven't been writing a lot lately, even though there are plenty of things wandering around inside my head that wouldn't mind being let out. I believe I have precisely the opposite problem that you do: I know what I want to write; I just don't know how I want to write it.

Of course, I also have this nasty little habit of getting distracted. I'll think to myself at some point, 'self, you need to make a LiveJournal post about this', nod in agreement with myself, and then before I get around to actually writing the post, I get distracted by something shiny and forget to post until after I've forgotten what it was I was going to write about in the first place.

But all that doesn't actually answer your question, does it?

I guess I don't consciously think about where the ideas for what I write come from. I just sort of let them flow into my brain from where ever they happen to be residing at the time. But it's not like things to write about are always flying unbidden into my brain. Sometimes, when I really need to write about something, I have to coax them out. The coaxing doesn't always work, of course. I have more than my fair share of 'open LJ client to post something, stare at blank screen for some amount of time, and then finally close it without having typed a single character' moments. Certainly more than I'd like.

Wow, this turned into an awfully long comment. You really got me thinking here. :)

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from: [info]minnesattva
date: Feb. 12th, 2007 08:25 pm (UTC)
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I find it kind of amusing that this post about how you can't write is both lengthy and well-written.

Yes, so do I. I did warn you! I realize how silly I sound. And, well, you saw this comment?

Not like I've ever seen anything you've written that wasn't done well

Oh, hush. Flattery will get you everywhere!

I suspect the 'post' button simply never gets pushed for those.

It does actually, far too often, but the thing is, there's a 'delete' button right there too... :-)

I'll think to myself at some point, 'self, you need to make a LiveJournal post about this', nod in agreement with myself, and then before I get around to actually writing the post, I get distracted by something shiny

That happens to me too, but being me and using LJ as cheap therapy like I do, sometimes I'm purposely avoiding something or else I'm trying not to write about it because even I do not want to inflict all my angst on my friends.

Sometimes, when I really need to write about something, I have to coax them out. The coaxing doesn't always work, of course.

Yeah, that happens to me too. Because often the things I'm avoiding will come back, and as I said I do like to get them out in words because being able to clearly, precisely and/or artfully state my problems usually makes me feel better even when it doesn't change anything else. (And since this is the internet, it sometimes does help solve the problem! I have been showered with good advice, suggestions, links, and even money in the past. Oh yeah, I also got a husband. But only one, so I wouldn't say that's included in the list of things I've been showered with. Just the list of things I have showered with. Okay, this is getting too silly.) But sometimes the need to write about something -- it does feel like a need, especially recently since I've been indulging it -- appears before the words do, and then it can be hard to string two of them together no matter how hard I try or how much I want to.

Wow, this turned into an awfully long comment. You really got me thinking here. :)

Not bad for someone else who says he doen't write!

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Brother Katana of Sweet Reason

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from: [info]gentleman_lech
date: Feb. 12th, 2007 08:44 pm (UTC)
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Well, I suppose no one is immune to the irony of writing about how we can't write. :)

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oh girl among the lilacs

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from: [info]underalilacmoon
date: Feb. 23rd, 2007 02:35 am (UTC)
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Hey! Noticed you friended me, came by to say hi... wondering what pulled ya in, the like. :)

This is interesting. I've always made up ridiculous fantastic stories in my head, with me the hero of EVERYTHING and my horse Shadow (urmm, when I was younger of course! Now I... seem to have lost Shadow somewhere, which is rather a pity.) and as a result, write, but all kinds of ridiculous sideplots and distractions still constantly burble up and I am so very glad to be out of school without all that forcing sentences up through the ass nonsense! Yeah, LJ's helped me loosen up and find a freeflow style too...

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The ass nonsense, yes.

from: [info]minnesattva
date: Feb. 23rd, 2007 12:19 pm (UTC)
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Yeah, I like your style; I (think I must have) seen you on my friendsfriends page and that's what caught my eye. It is very different from my own, more like I wish I could be. I meant to say something when I added you but my life has been unbelievably hectic lately and it's led to things like forgetting to add other people who say they want to be my friend or, as in your case, giving the impression of stalking. :-)

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